Now, is it big pharma that’s corrupt or the politicians who take their money that are corrupt?? That’s a real fine line that one. I’m in Australia, so what Obama did himself has no impact on me. We have our own politicians doing their own sneaky little backroom deals. There’s a saying ‘The word politics comes from the Greek language. Poli means many. And Tics are blood sucking insects’ 
Merl from the Moderator Support Team
It’s not the marijuana that helps. It’s the CBD! And that’s legal in all state’s!
Every single one of my doctors ok’d me giving it a try. Two got excited. Because it’s being tested here by a rheumatologist. They wanted to see how it would work for my fibromyalgia, and depression. In the last four months it’s been really making a difference. I started with the Hempworx coffee. Within a few days I thought I don’t know if it’s helping 
. Then I realized when going to bed and was taking my ibuprofen I didn’t take any all day!
So the next order I added on their oil a 500g strength. It seemed like a lot for me to spend but if it works?
Within days I was sleeping without my ibuprofen, and really good too!
Then my right knee didn’t like my jumping up to run to the bathroom. I did some crazy stunt fall to miss landing on the glass coffee table. I managed to tear my right knee meniscus, 75% of the lateral meniscus (that’s the one on the inner side of the knee cap). I was taking 5 ibuprofen and my CBD to get around. I had surgery on August 1 this year. Yes oxycodone seemed to work better when I took my CBD oil with it. I hate oxycodone, but when they remove almost all of the lateral meniscus then take a grinder and smooth out the roughness on the bone from arthritis, it’s gonna hurt.
Tell you what I was down to just ibuprofen, and CBD which really was good. Then disaster hit! I ran out of my CBD! 
I spaced out on ordering a new bottle because well I was spaced out.
I had been researching more on CBD because I was so impressed with it. And found out that vaping it worked faster than just sublingually. Sublingually lasts longer though. Out of me really wanting to get some sleep I went to the vape shop. They had all I needed, and the guy who helped me uses it too. Honestly I think he has fibromyalgia and doesn’t know it. But he said he thought it worked better than taking strong painkillers. It took the pain away and he didn’t get the side effects of that painkillers give you. You know I was all for it after hearing that. Within 2 days I’m down to 2 ibuprofen when I get up then it’s CBD while I’m awake. Then at bed time I take 4 ibuprofen with several puffs of the CBD. What a relief!
They also sold the CBD oil for taking it sublingually at a lower price! I’m going back for my oil and going to try the gummy bears, and pain cream. I hope direct application with the cream to my knee will help me with the last of my recovery.
Want help with figuring out what brands are legit, and formulas are not going to make you sick let me know. While I’m no doctor or expert I can tell you what I’ve learned in the last few months. FYI Hemp oil is NOT CBD! So you won’t find it on Amazon, and I don’t trust eBay. Sorry for the textbook reply but I almost feel normal. I’m still taking Duloxetine (Cymbalta) at night and methylphenidate (Ritalin) when I get up. I really need to email my cousin who is a renown rheumatoid arthritis researcher. know it. But he said he thought it worked better than taking strong painkillers. It took the pain away and he didn’t get the side effects of that painkillers give you. You know I was all for it after hearing that. Within 2 days I’m down to 2 ibuprofen when I get up then it’s CBD while I’m awake. Then at bed time I take 4 ibuprofen with several puffs of the CBD. What a relief! They also sold the CBD oil for taking it sublingually at a lower price! I’m going back for my oil and going to try the gummy bears, and pain cream. I hope direct application with the cream to my knee will help me with the last of my recovery. Want help with figuring out what brands are legit, and formulas are not going to make you sick let me know. While I’m no doctor or expert I can tell you what I’ve learned in the last few months. FYI Hemp oil is NOT CBD! So you won’t find it on Amazon, and I don’t trust eBay. Sorry for the textbook reply but I almost feel normal. I’m still taking Duloxetine (Cymbalta) at night and methylphenidate (Ritalin) when I get up. I really need to email my cousin who is a renown rheumatoid arthritis researcher.It’s not the marijuana that helps. It’s the CBD! And that’s legal in all state’s! Every single one of my doctors ok’d me giving it a try. Two got excited. Because it’s being tested here by a rheumatologist. They wanted to see how it would work for my fibromyalgia, and depression. In the last four months it’s been really making a difference. I started with the Hempworx coffee. Within a few days I thought I don’t know if it’s helping . Then I realized when going to bed and was taking my ibuprofen I didn’t take any all day! So the next order I added on their oil a 500g strength. It seemed like a lot for me to spend but if it works? Within days I was sleeping without my ibuprofen, and really good too! Then my right knee didn’t like my jumping up to run to the bathroom. I did some crazy stunt fall to miss landing on the glass coffee table. I managed to tear my right knee meniscus, 75% of the lateral meniscus (that’s the one on the inner side of the knee cap). I was taking 5 ibuprofen and my CBD to get around. I had surgery on August 1 this year. Yes oxycodone seemed to work better when I took my CBD oil with it. I hate oxycodone, but when they remove almost all of the lateral meniscus then take a grinder and smooth out the roughness on the bone from arthritis, it’s gonna hurt. Tell you what I was down to just ibuprofen, and CBD which really was good. Then disaster hit! I ran out of my CBD! I spaced out on ordering a new bottle because well I was spaced out. I had been researching more on CBD because I was so impressed with it. And found out that vaping it worked faster than just sublingually. Sublingually lasts longer though. Out of me really wanting to get some sleep I went to the vape shop. They had all I needed, and the guy who helped me uses it too. Honestly I think he has fibromyalgia and doesn’t know it. But he said he thought it worked better than taking strong painkillers. It took the pain away and he didn’t get the side effects of that painkillers give you. You know I was all for it after hearing that. Within 2 days I’m down to 2 ibuprofen when I get up then it’s CBD while I’m awake. Then at bed time I take 4 ibuprofen with several puffs of the CBD. What a relief! They also sold the CBD oil for taking it sublingually at a lower price! I’m going back for my oil and going to try the gummy bears, and pain cream. I hope direct application with the cream to my knee will help me with the last of my recovery. Want help with figuring out what brands are legit, and formulas are not going to make you sick let me know. While I’m no doctor or expert I can tell you what I’ve learned in the last few months. FYI Hemp oil is NOT CBD! So you won’t find it on Amazon, and I don’t trust eBay. Sorry for the textbook reply but I almost feel normal. I’m still taking Duloxetine (Cymbalta) at night and methylphenidate (Ritalin) when I get up. I really need to email my cousin who is a renown rheumatoid arthritis researcher and learn all I can from him.
Hale, I am working with my psychiatrist on my FM, and my bi-polar disorder. I had a horrific winter in 2018-2019. I feel that this specialty knows a great deal more about this illness, than a rheumatologist. I gave up the one that i was seeing at Rush, in Chicago. My psychiatrist is treating me with amitriptyline, which is working better than Lyrica has done. Still, I am having big, flare-ups on n almost daily basis. The oxycodone crisis has created a problem for those of us in chronic pain. I, too, want to try MM. My doctor is very concerned about side-effects and is stonewalling me. I spent 5 days/nights around Labor Day, down and unable to do anything. I intend to reapproach him about MM.
I am glad you are getting some relief. I hope you continue to feel better.
You can start with CBD. Rheumatoid arthritis research seems to be looking at it. The doctor here in Idaho seems to be seeing results when he wasn’t expecting any. That’s why all my doctors encouraged me to try it.
Anyway CBD is legal in all 50 states. Hempworx can be expensive but I started with their coffee, and hadn’t really looked at prices. But now I am feeling well enough to do the research on what’s out there, and prices. So you might want to try HempBombs.com they have in all sorts of ways to take CBD. Clumsy ol’ me managed to get to stumble on a crooked match in the sidewalk. Yep it’s sore again.
I’m just grateful I still need a cane when I leave the house. So I didn’t fall.
Went to the vape shop and got the Hemp Bombs Pain Freeze cream. Feels like bio-freeze I just put some on. So I’m trying it out now.
Update: I couldn’t sleep last night. So I took that Pain Freeze Cream, and slathered it all around my knee. I at first just put it on the topside of my knee, but I put lots on the inner and back of the knee this time. What can I say I almost posted another crazy reply. But the mods were saved by my falling asleep. I’m very impressed with this cream.
What is the name of the pain freeze cream and where did you get it? Thank you!
The name is Hemp Bombs Pain Freeze. I got it at the vape shop. You can ask the vape shop if they carry it. Seems like the shop nearest me has it and other shops in the area don’t. I heard a review on this one and they said it was way more effective in the length of time it worked. And they had a lot of reviews. If not you can shop their website hempbombs.com. I like that they use an isolate for the eJuice so no actual oil since it’s a powder. I keep falling down the rabbit hole called YouTube. So I’m not getting very far today in looking up CBD creams and lotions. But I’m really impressed with what I’ve tried so far.
I had never in m life tried marijuana in my 56 years of life. About a month ago my daughter invited me over for a get-together and dinner. I was in the middle of a flareup and at first, I didn’t want to go, but my other daughter was going so I went with her. They have seen me going through this horrible disease so they are aware of what I have to deal with, Upon arriving my oldest daughter said that she had something to help me with the pain…a brownie. I was hesitant because for me I had taken some pride in never trying marijuana, but my pain was greater than my pride, so I tried it. And I must say it did help with the pain. It made me a believer that’s for sure. I’ve tried CBD oil and it didn’t help at all. I hope to get the MM card in the future.
Are you using this successfully for fibro pain? I read all the product reviews and no one mentions fibro pain. They talk about arthritis pain and general, non-fibro, aches and pains, which isn’t bad, for sure, but I need fibro pain relief.
It’s not an instant relief, but a longer lasting one. The vape works faster than any of the other products I’ve tried. The other night when I got a bit wild putting the cream on my knee turned out to be a surprise for me. It wasn’t sore the day, and my hands didn’t hurt either. Actually my whole leg felt good. It lasted for quite a few hours after I got up too. I can’t guarantee that it will work so good for you, but it’s been working for me. My husband has had problems with chronic pain, talk about the kid that is always breaking a part of himself , and he’s been using it on his neck. It must have been 5 years ago he slipped on ice going down the front stairs… 
and gave himself 3 yes 3 compound fractures in his left leg. 
Looked more like he shattered the tibia and the fibula had complementary breaks. So now he’s in constant pain. I think it’s that rod in his leg and it didn’t heal straight. So he’s been using the cream for that too. He said it seems to be working. Can’t hurt to try is what I figure.
I still don’t understand if you are using it for fibro pain or non-fibro pain?
Right now I’m mainly using it for post surgery pain. Though I’m also putting it on my fibro pain too. Just like knee it feels like it might not be working, then I will suddenly notice that those pains are gone. I’m going to be more liberal with the application tonight. I’m going try to turn on the stop watch, but I need make sure I check it when I realize that I’ve stopped hurting . See right now my right knee has been so sore it makes the rest of my body not so sore. Well my left leg is complaining about taking up the extra slack.
I’m just noticing that I’m not having a bad flare up 
. It’s supposed to be thunderstorms tomorrow. I should be feeling older than my mom right now. I guess it is helping. Because I should be in bed and refusing to get out. I’ll keep you updated on how I’m feeling.
FWIW CBD in any form does not list Fibro as one of the conditions treated because it doesn’t. The action of cannibis effects endorphin production (increases it) This is the common cause of FMS. So while a THC high may help you not notice whats going on, (so does copious amounts of alcohol) the net effect is to increase disease action. It my “help pain” but that pain 's source is not fibro.
TJ
I’m a high believer in using med marijuana, the only problem I’m having with it is that I can no longer work, no work, no money; no money no luck getting any, and its not legal where I’m at.
Having CF and FM for more than 10 years my last resort after trying most everything else under the sun (and labs) led me to the Medical Marijuana.
It is quite true as cooksalot stated, Hemp oil is not CBD or has THC. Amazon and most web sites tend to advertise it as the same but don’t waste your money or time. It is better if you go to your doctor and get a referral, the go to a doctor with license to sell it through the state. This way it is much safer and you can also get various ratios of CBD / THC. In NY state they have 5 different ratios to choose from being only CBD to only THC and in between. I found it safer knowing exactly what you take through the state than off the streets, or fly by night “companies” only trying to capitalize.
I use 2 vapes, one with half CBD and THC during the day, then the other one with mostly THC before going to sleep. Sometimes due to pain I use some THC during the day and it tends to take the edge off some.
If you do decide to go this route, be sure to start out slow and try to journal the process.
I have been using my medical marijuana card for about 6 months now after having tried everything the doctors gave me in the last two years from the pharmacy with little success. I can say that marijuana has literally saved my life! What an incredible medicinal plant. I’m so happy to see the truth about marijuana coming out and legalization helping people to experience the medicinal powers of this plant that has been used for thousands of years. Way before Big Pharma and acceptable medications for the needs of our government were the only thing we had. Ok, back to the topic at hand. It has been my experience that it helps my pain, insomnia, fatigue, anxiety and depression like nothing I’ve ever tried before. It may take some time to find the right strain for you so be patient and don’t give up! You are lucky to have doctors that support your choice. I’m not so fortunate. Mine fight me about taking it in every visit. I have found a strain that helps energize me when I’m so fatigued I can’t get up to do anything, a strain that melts away pain when I don’t have to go anywhere, a strain that helps calm my anxieties better than any benzos, most all strains make me happy and I get to escape the reality that has become my life for awhile and a strain that helps me sleep better than any pharmaceutical. A tip about nighttime usage. Be careful to not take it less than two hours before bed because it may get you to sleep well but your brain is still so active you wake up and cannot go back to sleep. Something that works for me is to smoke it, or however your using it, 2 hours before bed and then eat an edible at bedtime. The high you got from your evening dose is wearing off and you are coming down into serious drowsiness ( if you pick the right strain) and the edible doesn’t work immediately like smoking or vaping so by the time the effect of your evening high wears off completely the edible starts kicking in and takes over for the rest of the night. Pretty cool huh? You will want to try the edible first during the day, maybe on a weekend, to know just how long it is going to stay in your system once working and find one that times perfectly to the amount of hours per night that you like to sleep. Some can last more than 8 hours! These are all things that you can discuss with your marijuana doctor and experiment for yourself. I hope this has been helpful to you.
OK, here is my experience: I lived in Seattle and was on medical MJ and then the state legalized recreational. I do not smoke anything.
My preferred dosing was a tincture, usually of indica strains or a indica/sativa hybrid. I did not take it before or during work. (normal day office job) I chose a tincture because it is absorbed and starts to work faster than an edible. Most tinctures have either an alcohol or glycerin base and it’s dropped under the tongue for maximum absorption. You can add a tincture to a drink since the taste is often strong, but that then becomes and edible, which can take anywhere from 20 minutes to 2 hours to start to work. I also have a lot of knee pain and prior knee surgery, so I used a topical lotion. The amount in a lotion can vary by manufacturer, so i tried several before I found one that worked. It took about 20 minutes to start working, but would reduce the pain in my knees from a 9 to a 4 and lasted for several hours. The only difference legalizing it recreationally meant was that the number of products available and stores in the community increased. if anything, it helped prices due to competition.
A little over a year ago, I moved to New Mexico for various reasons. The weather is a lot better, so it’s not as bad as it was. Here, it’s medical only and only certain conditions can get it. it’s a pain in the butt to get and not cheap to get or renew. They’re hoping to just legalize it in a year or two, so I’ll just wait until then if I need it again. I personally hate taking pills and have no desire to get addicted to or use opiods. The MJ greatly reduced my pain, helped me sleep a lot better, WAS NOT ADDICTIVE, and the strains I chose meant I was completely functional, which was my goal. I can’t recommend it highly enough. Any doctor who tries to warn you away from it for anything like “it doesn’t work well” or “it’s expensive”… Bull. I didn’t take it every day, but every 2-3 days as needed and a bottle of tincture lasted a little over a month at $40 a bottle. Completely worth it to function.
**ive been on the medical marijuana program in Illinois for 4 yrs was referred by my Rheumtologist who would let me know when to adjust my CBD or CBN . Helped me understand the strains and why it worked . I have a n awesome dispensary that is helpful on the educational side of this and they have a “ Leaf print“ program that allows patients to rate products and tells you what terpenes are in the different stains how much efficacy is in each strain ect. I have tried traditional cymbalta, other pain meds , and though this is not a cure is about the only thing I don’t have a chemical sensitivity to and the side affects are not like those traditional meds. I would tell anyone to try it , it may not work the same goer each person but I believe there’s a product out there for everyone be it edible , combustible, or topical. I think it’s with the try for relief of many fibromyalgia symptoms and makes them more manageable. On average I spend about $250. Per month on products. Talk to your care team ( family docs ect. ) it’s not as taboo as you think and there are infant to elderly all walks of life that are patients.