Is anyone else here completely alone?

I no longer have any family or friends who contact me. i know it's my fault for going through cycles of not coping and getting depreesed and everyone's tired of it. The last straw happened recently when I told my brothers i could no longer take care of my mother and I have been banned from the family. "Officially" univited to holidays etc.

I have no human in "real life" that I can talk to. I'm a good person. I haven't done horrible things. I've done volunteer work most of my life. i'm too sick to keep a friendship alive now. With CFS fatigue on top of Fibro I don't have the energy to cultivate new friends. The invitations to do things have disappeared.

All of my 30 yr friendships have stopped calling. Especially now that I am "more" disabled due to a new health problem.

I talk to my therapist via email to save money. I try to read and watch happy funny things so i don't fall into despair. But today the sun is shining, but it's cold. And I haven't been anywhere the last few months other than Dr's offices. I'm broke and living on SS Disability. Trying to pay all my medical bills.

I've been fighting off the tears all day, but I feel so alone that I feel invisible.

Anyone else in this situation? I'm trying to stay strong. Because I know getting more depressed will only hurt me.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------UPDATE: 11/26/12 MY NEW FAVORITE QUOTE:

"Some people just serve us better as lessons than friends and loved ones. Be grateful for their lesson for they were a great teacher to you and have made you more wise. Always send them away with love and wish them the best."....(.can't' remember who wrote it!)

Hi Penelope

Sure I am in a similar situation. I have pi… … some of my long term friends. In my defense I have to say that I did this when I was deep in chronic fatigue, and terribly ill.It’s just that my illness was iinvisible and not evident to any one else but me. They of course are not bad people they just can’t see our problem. This is another category of illness, and people including ourselves are yet to understand it,but I know that when I was immersed in chronic fatigue, it was like being in a different level of consciousness. One that is new to the medical fraternity and to people generally.So we are suffering because the research community has yet to work out our condition.How do I manage, of course Bens Friends helps enormously, as does twitter, and the few friends that I have left on email, from various spots around the world. I also have a wonderful son who believes regardless of what others say,thank goodness. But I am housebound and often don’t see anyone for weeks, but probably much older than you, so I am able to occupy myself with small projects around my home, and reading and writing of course. You are definitely not alone. I hope this helps Barb

Barb, you sure have hit a home run with your comment. It's perfect. And should be framed in gold and placed in every doctor's office and our rooms as well. If I could remember things past five minutes, I'd commit this to memory forevermore. If you can save it and then pull it out and repost it to new users, that would be phenomenal. Everyone needs to see and hear this.

Penelope

I think for the most part we are all good people and in part that is the problem,so we have stretch ourselves to accommodate others need, sadly to our detriment.

What can we do?Just settle in the knowledge that this is a condition has just happened to us, and we have to find ways of dealing with it, because no one really gets it.So take what you can from the health providers, and the internet, stuff that suits you, and makes you feel better.

I’m in Australia so I don’t know your community support systems, but I 'm sure that you have someone in the community somewhere who can sit with you and help you with your financial matters.Barb

Hi, Penelope,

You're absolutely right, you're a good person who's done nothing wrong except get sick with a mystery illness. But you're treated like a criminal for being ill. I know, it's not fair. And we have to be our own best advocates on the issue. However, once you become more comfortable in your own skin with this, I think it makes you feel better and more in control of your life again.

It's normal to get depressed with fibro. I don't know how people can be in constant pain and NOT be depressed. If you feel that your depression is really mucking up your life, though, it might be a good idea to talk to your doctor about it. You can be depressed with fibro and not even realize it. I feel a lot better now that I'm on anti-depressants. Helps to give me more tolerance in dealing with my fibro.

Here's my personal feeling on your brothers' banning you from the family: how DARE they do that to you? Do they not see with their own eyes how pained you look and how your body responds to this illness? Their actions are beyond cruel.

You are ILL and need and deserve to see your family. God forbid that they should ever get ill and end up in your shoes.

I hope that eventually they get their heads out of their derrieres and forget all of that idiocy. I will try to find some things written about fibro that might help you with dealing with them. Maybe if they read something written by someone else, they'll get it.

Don't give up hope. Come here and interact with other fibro folks. They know exactly what you're going through, unfortunately. Even right down to the relatives and friends who vanish because they don't understand the illness. I do think that once we get more confidence in ourselves (we ARE okay, we ARE really ill, it IS okay to tell people about the illness and they won't vanish,) we learn how to accept those who go and find those who stay. Those who stay are keepers.

Gotta go for now. Hope this helps some. Wishing you lots and lots of luck in regards to your brothers.

Hugs,

Petunia Girl

Here's one way of explaining fibro to people:

MY NAME IS FIBROMYALGIA
by Terri Been

Hi....My Name is Fibromyalgia, and I'm an Invisible Chronic Illness. I
am now velcroed to you for life. Others around you can't see me or hear me,
but YOUR body feels me. I can attack you anywhere and anyhow I please.
I can cause severe pain or, if I'm in a good mood, I can just cause you to
ache all over.
Remember when you and Energy ran around together and had fun?
I took Energy from you, and gave you Exhaustion. Try to have fun now! I
also took Good Sleep from you and, in its place, gave you Brain Fog. I can
make you tremble internally or make you feel cold or hot when everyone else
feels normal. Oh, yeah, I can make you feel anxious or depressed, too. If you
have something planned, or are looking forward to a great day, I can take
that away, too. You didn't ask for me. I chose you for various reasons:
That virus you had that you never recovered from, or that car accident,
or maybe it was the years of abuse and trauma. Well, anyway, I'm here to stay!

I hear you're going to see a doctor who can get rid of me. I'm rolling
on the floor, laughing. Just try. You will have to go to many, many doctors
until you find one who can help you effectively. You will be put on pain pills,
sleeping pills, energy pills, told you are suffering from anxiety or depression,
given a TENs unit, get massaged, told if you just sleep and exercise properly I
will go away, told to think positively, poked, prodded, and MOST OF ALL, not
taken as seriously as you feel when you cry to the doctor how debilitating life
is every day.
Your family, friends and coworkers will all listen to you until they
just get tired of hearing about how I make you feel, and that I'm a debilitating
disease. Some of they will say things like "Oh, you are just having a bad day" or
"Well, remember, you can't do the things you use to do 20 YEARS ago", not
hearing that you said 20 DAYS ago. Some will just start talking behind your
back, while you slowly feel that you are losing your dignity trying to make them
understand, especially when you are in the middle of a conversation with a
"Normal" person, and can't remember what you were going to say next!

In closing, (I was hoping that I kept this part a secret), but I guess you already
found out...the ONLY place you will get any support and understanding in dealing
with me is with Other People With Fibromyalgia.

Hello Penelope

Because our chronic illnesses are invisible many people do not accept that we are ill, very ill. If they had to live in our bodies for one week.........one day........ they would think differently. So, our chronic illnesses are very lonely diseases. We cannot commit to being able to attend some function with old friends at a future date because we have no idea how we will feel on that particular day so it's understandable that after awhile they stop inviting us.

The best thing is that you have joined this online support group because we understand and we are here to listen to you chat with you. We really understand because we are dealing with the same thing ourselves.

And here are more:*

www.butyoudontlooksick.com

http://www.fibromyalgiatreatment.com/letter_to_normals.htm

http://www.fms-help.com/mnif.htm

http://gentlehugs.livejournal.com/21679.html

But I personally think that if you're talking to a guy, you have to cut out all of the flowery stuff and get to the chase: "I'm sick, dummy, so get over it!" (Not really, just kidding, sorry guys...)

(*With special thanks to Angelonearth for finding and posting all of these wonderful links.)

Here's my favorite article on explaining fibro:

What's Going On? A Simple Explanation of Fibromyalgia

Making Sense of a Complex Disorder, For Those Who Don't Have It

Updated February 03, 2011
About.com Health's Disease and Condition content is reviewed by the Medical Review Board
Fibromyalgia is a complex condition that's difficult to understand, especially if you don't have a medical degree. Because it involves the brain and nervous system, fibromyalgia can have an impact on virtually every part of the body.
If you're trying to understand this condition in someone you know, it can be incredibly confusing. When a lot of people see a bizarre collection of fluctuating symptoms that don't show up in medical tests, they decide fibromyalgia must be a psychological problem. A host of scientific evidence, however, proves that it's a very real physical condition.
Digging through that scientific research doesn't help most of us, though. Terms like neurotransmitter dysregulation, nociceptors, cellular enzymes and opiate pathways aren't exactly easy to grasp.
The goal of this article is to help you understand and relate to what's going on in the body of someone with fibromyalgia, in plain terms and without medical jargon. At the end of each section, you'll find relevant medical terms with links to definitions. They'll be helpful if you want to go beyond a basic understanding, but you don't need to understand the terms to get through this article.

Understanding the Pain of Fibromyalgia

Imagine you're planning a party and expecting about 20 guests. Three or four friends told you they'd come early to help you out. But they don't show, and instead of 20 guests, you get 100. You're overwhelmed.
That's what's happening with pain signals in someone who has fibromyalgia. The cells send too many pain messages (party guests), up to five times as many as in a healthy person. That can turn mild pressure or even an itch into pain.
When those pain signals reach the brain, they're processed by something called serotonin. People with fibromyalgia, however, don't have enough serotonin (the friends who didn't show up to help), leaving the brain overwhelmed.
This is why people with fibromyalgia have pain in tissues that show no sign of damage. It's not imagined pain; it's misinterpreted sensation that the brain turns into actual pain.
Other substances in the patient's brain amplify a host of other signals -- essentially, "turning up the volume" of everything. That can include light, noise and odor on top of pain, and it can further overload the brain. This can lead to confusion, fear, anxiety and panic attacks.

Understanding the Ups & Downs of Fibromyalgia

Most people with a chronic illness are always sick. The effects on the body of cancer, a virus, or a degenerative disease are fairly constant. It's understandably confusing to see someone with fibromyalgia be unable to do something on Monday, yet perfectly capable of it on Wednesday.
Look at it this way: Everyone's hormones fluctuate, and even things like weight and blood pressure can rise and fall during the course of a day, week or month. All of the systems and substances in the body work that way, rising and falling in response to different situations.
Research shows conclusively that fibromyalgia involves abnormal levels of multiple hormones and other
substances. Because those things all go up and down, sometimes one or more are in the normal zone and other times they're not. The more things that are out of the zone, the worse they'll feel.

Understanding Stress & Fibromyalgia

Some people think fibromyalgia patients are emotionally incapable of dealing with stress, because a stressful situation will generally make symptoms worse.
The important thing to understand is that we respond to stress both emotionally and physically. A physical response, in everyone, includes a rush of adrenaline and other hormones that help kick your body into overdrive so you can deal with what's happening.
People with fibromyalgia don't have enough of those hormones, which makes stress very hard on their bodies and can trigger symptoms.
Also, when we talk about "stress" we usually mean the emotional kind, which can come from your job, a busy schedule, or personal conflict. A lot of things actually cause physical stress, such as illness, lack of sleep, nutritional deficiencies and injuries. Physical stress can have the same effect as emotional stress.

Understanding the Fatigue of Fibromyalgia

Think of a time when you were not just tired, but really exhausted. Maybe you were up all night studying for a test. Maybe you were up multiple times to feed a baby or take care of a sick child. Maybe it was the flu or strep throat.
Imagine being exhausted like that all day while you're trying to work, take care of kids, clean the house, cook dinner, etc. For most people, one or two good night's sleep would take that feeling away.
With fibromyalgia, though, comes sleep disorders that make a good night's sleep a rarity. A person with fibromyalgia can have anywhere from one to all of the following sleep disorders:

Fibromyalgia In a Nutshell

A lot of illnesses involve one part of the body, or one system. Fibromyalgia, however, involves the entire body and throws all kinds of things out of whack. As bizarre and confusing as the varied symptoms may be, they're tied to very real physical causes.
Fibromyalgia can take someone who is educated, ambitious, hardworking and tireless, and rob them of their ability to work, clean house, exercise, think clearly and ever feel awake or healthy.
  • It's NOT psychological "burn out" or depression.
  • It's NOT laziness.
  • It's NOT whining or malingering.
  • It IS the result of widespread dysfunction in the body and the brain that's hard to understand, difficult to treat, and, so far, impossible to cure.
The hardest thing for patients, however, is having to live with it. Having the support and understanding of people in their lives can make it a lot easier.

Hi Penelope, your post is such a sad reality of just another thing that we suffer through, it’s not your fault !! We did not ask to be stricken with this horrible fibro & CF…And I know coping can be very hard at times, look at what we suffer with… Of course we have times of not being able to cope & feel depressed…
I sometimes think its easier to be alone, it’s so very hard to keep trying to explain why we cant do things, and still they do not seems to understand.
Im so sorry that your family treated you poorly, I hope they will come to there senses and realize the holidays are to celebrate family being togeather. That’s just not very nice…
I just can’t understand why most people just don’t seem to understand ???
Fighting the tears just really shows how hurt you are … And strong… Its like sometimes we just get tired of fighting off the despair , but we keep going… Please know you are not alone… I think we all have times when we feel so alone and invisible . That’s such a good description of how we feel !!!
And having to live on disability is extremely difficult as well…
So many of us are in the same situation, I hate that I cant buy my kids nice gifts anymore
If we don’t stay strong and try and find the positive… We will just, ( like you said ) only get more depressed and that will only hurt us more
Your so right !!!
Hugs & blessings

Thank you,Barb, Petunia and Rachel. You all have good info. I've seen most of it but the one Petunia posted about Hi I'm Firbo, I've never seen before.it made me ccry. But I have no one who would read it.

i've had CFS for 17 yrs and Fibro for 16 yrs. I used to be married, I used to have friends and family until this year. I'm 53. When I asked my brother's for help with my mom, one said "We work, all you do is sit on your ass all day" So I quit asking and kept pushing until i ended up in the hospital. i have a psychiatrist. He thinks all i need now is pain control and support. He knows I have no one. When I asked my brother (by text) if my mother could stay with him over a weekend after her surgery, all i said was, "I take her to all her appts and do everything else. I'm sick and i need help for 2 days" SHE wanted ME to take care of her. She's narcissistic. So his reply was " We all know you're sick! You've told us a 100 times! This isn't about you it's about mother!"

So i called him a selfish Bas****. (by text). I broke. I couldn't take any more. He showed MY response to everyone in the family,.... not what he'd said to me. There is NO hope for these people. They're mad that I'm dropping mother in their lap. She can afford to pay drivers and anything else she needs. She also has 2 grown grandchildren and a daughter-in-law. She doesn't care how sick I am.

That's when i got banned from the family. I have ignored my mother's calls and she had me removed from her will.

I feel like a sick dog locked in a cage who's begging for help and no one can hear me.

I have learned to accept my fate with these illnesses. But being totally alone, no one to talk to is becoming more than i can bare. I made it through Thanksgiving ok. But this long Holiday season feels like torture when all you can do is look in the mirror at a person who isn't aging gracefully and cry.

But thank you all for your ideas and support. I appreciate being heard :)

Thank you Dee :)

Penelope, what you did sounds incredibly sane and rational to me. You just offloaded 2 or more toxic people from your life. That's an awful thing to say about one's family, isn't it, except it's true. Sometimes some people are just SO toxic that there's no salvaging a relationship. It sounds like this is the case with your family members if they cannot and will not hear you about your illness and inability to manage the care of your mother.

And yes, you do have someone to read the article I sent you that made you cry: you. You have you. You just saved "you" from a life of never being heard or acknowledged. Now you have the time to think of "you" without the accusations of those who will never hear what you have to say.

As for losing others in your life, yep, they leave when they find out we're sick and no longer any "fun" to be around. I think that truly is the meaning of the word "fair weather friends." Oh, they don't mean us any harm and aren't bad people but they can't and don't get what we're going through anymore than I could truly imagine living life as Helen Keller.

BUT...we meet new people who know and care. At first they may only be virtual friends. But as our confidence mends, we start to meet them elsewhere as well. Sometimes they are fellow fibro or CFS sufferers. Other times they are just kind and caring souls. They are out there.

You know what? i may not look so hot anymore but I put on my makeup, fix my hair, put on nice clothes, hold my head up and go out in the world. Guess what: there are other people out in it who also don't look so hot and look like they aren't feeling so hot either. Maybe we can share makeup tips or a fun pet story or something as we chat for a minute.

You are heard. We hear you. We know.

HUGS!!!

Petunia

Penelope, Thank God for this online support group!! I have 2 friends with fibro, 1 being my friend of 49yrs. Her kids & mine grew up together, now our grandkids are friends. She has tried to talk to my youngest son with little result. My 3 sons all deserted me when I got sick. I have few friends who have stayed with me. I have little contact with even the few friends who I am still in contact with because of the CFS & fibro. I 'disappear' for days at a time because I am in bed and don't even have the energy to answer my phone when it does ring. For a while I felt I was totally alone. Try to talk to the friends of 30yrs. Try sending them some of the fibro info you have seen ... send them some of the replies you recieved from your comment to us here. If they have been friends for that long surely they must realize something has happened with you. Explain to them that you may not be able to have the same relationship, YOU are still YOU, just not able to be as active in the relationship as you were before. Let them know you miss them and it would help you if they stayed in contact.

I know how it is being broke. I filed for SSD in Oct. 2008 and am still fighting for it. Thank goodness I recieve SS survivors benefits (widows). For the first 2yrs. I sold everything (I just cashed in the savings bonds I had purchased for my grandchildren in 1999 & 2000 while still working) I could bear to part with -- Grandmothers jewelery, silver coins collected since childhood etc. I finally had to break down and ask my oldest brother ( who has cancer) for help paying my property taxes last year (I have a mobile home). To ask anyone for ANY help about kills me. Thankfully he could help - once only. I have filed for medi-cal (state medical help) they said I'd hear in approx. 10 days, it's been almost 2mos. Can't get anyone on the phone, wait is anywhere from 1/2hr to ??? Tags on my car have expired, I can't afford to get it smogged yet...

So you are not alone. We are here for you to chat with if you need us, I'm sure all will agree with this. Many of us are up early - some late at nite. If you are feeling lonely, get on line someone will most likely be around.

Try to keep your chin up. Try to find ways to keep yourself busy at something, don't ever give up, don't ever stop fighting this awful thing we have. God grant you can get at least one of your old friends to listen.

Soft Hugs!

Hi Penelope,

They say that "friends multiply happiness and divide grief" and that's one way to tell if someone is a true friend. This applies to family members too. I'm pretty much in the same position as you ssdi, broke each month trying to pay for treatments and no life except for doctor's visits. Family members don't understand, boyfriends don't understand, strangers don't understand, they want you to take care of them and you're the one who is sick. And when you put your foot down, you end up being the bad guy. I say, let the chips fall where they may.

I know it's lonely, but there always seems to be something good come out of a bad situation. That's been my experience. I pray for strength to keep going and to make the right choices. Like you, I've been in this muddled up mess for over fifteen years. When family or relationships get toxic to me, I end them. No guilt involved. Because my goal is to get well. You have a responsibility to yourself to do that.

I can say this, I have learned more about myself during these years of illness than I would have ever learned had it not happened. It's torture, but I see it as an opportunity to get to a better place. I'll use it to make my life better somehow.

You're a good person, just remember that. Find a good doctor who is not going to overmedicate you with rx's. Having a holistic/integrative physician along with my other doctors has helped me the most and put me on track to healing, since they do treat the whole person. There are so many nice people on the forums who really do care.

Take care,

Allergic

Penelope,

I've encountered the same problem. You really do find out who your friends are when times are tough. Unfortunately everyone runs away when you need them the most. I've had cancer (20 years ago) and I can't tell you how fast friends stop contacting me. Apparently it was too depressing for them. Then I went into a severe depression-my psychiatrist told me to talk about it with my friends. Well that back fired. Now I am struggling with fibro and no one understands or cares. I envy people who have a "true" best friend. They are hard to find

It's sad but you really do find out who your friends aren't when times are tough.

Hang in there!

Thank you everyone! I'm up early to go to the Dr i can't stand who gives me pain pills. Hopefully with my new pain specialist I can stop seeing this one!

My eyes are so swollen for crying all night, driving should be fun. Did I mention i ran over a can of white pain the other day? My car is black!!! lol My neighbors have mentioned it. I just said , i really don't care.

I'm glad to hear your stories because it's very hard feeling like you're the only one who is annoying to everyone you know. On Thanksgiving I thought, Wow, these people (my family across town) call themselves Christians. Ha!

Well, I really don't feel well enough to drive, but whatever...so tired, so sick.

Thank you for letting me know you are all out there somewhere.'mI sorry you all have to feel as bad as I do. I really am.

hugs,

P

HI PENELOPE IM SO SORRY THATS NOT FAIR BUT UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF US KNIW WHAT YOUR GOING THROUGH INI UNFORTUNATELY HAVE 2 IN MY LIFE BUT NEXT YEAR THEYLL BE OUT OF MY LIFE 1 PERMANTLY THE OTHER ILL SEE ONCE A YEAR MAYBE 2 BUT ITLL BE ON NEUTRAL TERRITORY ONE IS MY DAD THE OTHER HIS GIRLFRIEND BOTH HAVE CAJSED ME A LOT OF STRESS HIM MORE THSN HER BUT SHE THREATENED TO HAVE MY MOTHERS DIG THAT IM TAKING CARE OF AFTER DYING IF CANCER SEPTEMBER302009. SHE CAUSED A MAJOR FIBROFLARE I COULDNT FUNCTION IT WAS BEXTIME SO I WENT TO BED I SHOULD HAVE CALLED 911 AND WENT TO THE ER AND DID WHAT THE DR WOULD HAVE TOLD ME TO DO THAT WAS 3-4 VISITS AGO I DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WIRH HER I DO WHAT MY TWO FRIENDS HSVE TOLD ME TO DO THEYRE LIKE BIG SISTERS BECAUSE MY TEO YOU VER ONES LIVE IN DES MOINES IOWA AND HSVE VERY BUSY LIVES BUT THEY MAKE TIME FOR ME NO MATTER WHAT ALL MY FRIENDS A D OTHER RELATIVES ARE TBERE FIR ME NO MATTER WHAT IF I HAD GOBE TO THE ER MY SJSTETS WOULD T BE VERY HAPPY MY OTHER FRIENDS DAID THAT HE SHOULD HAVE TOKD HER NOT TO DO THAT BUT I TOMD THEM SHES MORE IMPORTANT TO HIM TBAN ME ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THSN WORDS BUT I DIS NOTHING WRONG I DIDNT PROVOKE GER I TOLD MY TWO FRIENDS THAT ARE LIKE BIG SULISTERS WHAT HAPPENED AND THEYRE FSMILY FRIENDS AND THEY SAID TBAT WASNT RIGHT I TOLD TWO IF MY EORKFRIENDS AND THEY SAID THE SAME THING ONE IVE KNOWN FIR ONE MONTH 4 PEOPKE CANT BE WRONG I JUST TAKE IT ONE DAY AT ATIME JYST LINE EVERYONE ELSE IM PKAYING THE PIWERBALL HOPING TO WIN ENOUGH TO MOVE I DONT E OUGH BECAUSE OF THE FIBRO TO MOVE I DONT NEED 425 MILLION JUST FIVE NU.BERS SO I CSN HAVE 250000-500000 THATS ALM I NEED BUT ILL TAKE THE BIG ONE OR MAYBE TBE PUBLISHERS CLEARINGHOUSE SWEEPSTAKES UNTIL IM APPROVED FOR SS DISABITY IF I DO I HAVE RHE PKACE I WANT JUST A FEW BLICKS FROM HERE BUT E EN AFTER THE DEALS SIGNED ITLL BE ONE MONTH BEFORE WE THE DOG AND TWO MORE TO BE COMPANIONS FOR HER WHEN IM GONE WELL HSVE TO STAY AT A MOTEL WHEN IM NOT WORKING AT 7AM THE NEXT DAY UNTIL WE CSN MIVE THANKS FIR BEING TBERE FIR ME HAVE A GOID DAY E ERYONE SORRY ABOUT THE VERY LO G POST YOURE A GREAT GROUP IM VERY LUCKY TO HSVE YOU AS FRIENDS

Well, there is a big lesson that I learned throughout this ordeal. As you observed "people who call themselves Christians." I've been accused of not being a Christian just because I don't go to church every sunday. Well, going to church every sunday doesn't automatically make you a Christian. Some profess to be Christian but they don't "live it" in their everyday lives. Their behavior toward others does not match what they say they believe in. Not even close. This applies to every religious belief, not just Christianity. It's good to be aware of this when dealing with others. Never assume anything.

Take care,

Allergic

Hi Penelope!

Many of us know exactly how you feel…its a strange human phenomenon that happens when ‘well’ people take our isolating personally. For me I have foun only one thing helps…when I feel the slightes bit good and up to it, I reach out and send an email or call who ever is on the list of ignorers. Some arent worth the energy, but some are…you choose who you want to give your energy to. I have yet to experience someone who doesnt appreciate being gotten ahold of…Ironic isnt it? They get happy to get a call…should be the other way around. Anyway…heres e deal, we dont need a ton of friends anyway…just a small handfull is plenty. And you are NEVER alone here! Hugs!

Tracy :slight_smile: